![]() It seems we do not have any exact dates for the very pictures of interest: those of the horseback riders in particular. "Ancient petroglyphs discovered in western Iran", Tehran Times, February 16, 2021.Īnd this is a problem. International experts Jan Brouwer and Gus van Veen have examined the Teymareh site estimating its carvings were made 40,000-4,000 years ago. “The drawings include animal, human, and plant motifs as well as scenes of hunting and horseback riding,” the official said. “The petroglyphs, which bear carved symbols and figures in the two colors of black and ocher, were discovered during an architectural survey conducted in Chegeni county of Lorestan province,” the provincial tourism chief, Seyyed Amin Qasemi, announced on Monday. That would be very early, perhaps very much too early indeed, but not that much out of the ordinary like this '15000 years' claim.Īn exact dating for what's found at Dousheh (spelling used in English Wikipedia for Rock Art in Iran) is not available to me, but the Tehran Times ("Straight Truth" ) reuses the rider given in the question's picture and states in 2021 for another find in Lorestan province: Iranian tourism websites don't mention any references for their claims, but stick at least with 4500 BC as the time frame. Without any horses present archaeologically, cave art of this kind has to be younger. ![]() It seems that the rock-art in the غار دوشه Doosheh cave cannot be dated to so early, and apparently wasn't dated reliably, or really: dated at all, as almost all such sites in Iran in general, and that the domesticated horse itself made its appearance in Iran much later, matching more the first millennium BCE time as conservatively assumed. The generally accepted 'history' and dates of horse domestication and riding practices are quite at odds with the dates for cave carvings and paintings from Iran sometimes given for 'riders' so early, and so early in that region. There seems to be something going on of the quite unreliable kind. The dating section reads: "Because of the technique and the stylistic comparison with the other designs of Kulzhabasy, these petroglyphs can be dated to the Early Bronze Age." Presumably, this corresponds to 3300-2600BC. ![]() UPD: found a research paper that features a petroglyph that's located in present-day Kazakhstan and is stylistically similar to Doocheh cave petroglyph (pp 16-17). they doubt the dating/authenticity, or because they don't know about these carvings because of the politics-motivated isolation of Iran? I am not sure if it's because Western researchers don't agree with the importance of the Doosheh cave carvings, e.g. I was unable to find it mentioned in the "serious" sources on the origins of horseback riding, only in the books that present Iranian history. ![]() The transliteration of the name of this case varies a lot, can be Doushe or Dusheh or Dushe, which does not help. In A CONCISE HISTORY OF IRAN: From the early period to the present time, we read "In Doosheh cave, near the city of Khorramabad in Iran, considerable stone carvings dating back to 15,000 BCE show men riding horses and holding the animals' reins." Another mention of this cave, with a 15,000BC estimate, is here.Wikipedia mentions 3,500BC for horseback riding (if I understand correctly) and 4,000BC "based on evidence that includes the appearance of dental pathologies associated with bitting".1,000 BC, and, before that, the horses were used to pull the chariots only In Ashmolean Museum (Oxford, UK), the information panel in the Middle East section tells the visitors that the horseback riding started in cr.My main question is about when horseback riding started. I am trying to reconcile 3 answers I have got so far. ![]()
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